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Originally posted by sargentlard
Stick around long enough and you'll realize many here are very witty and quite jestful in the free thoughts section.....including me (don't trust me...reread all my posts in free thoughts.)

Pollux V:

Based on what sargentlard said earlier, your post falls into one of two categories:

1. You're trying to be funny.

In this case, it is an infantile attempt at humor, and thus making for an inane post on your part.

2. You're not trying to be funny.

In this case, as opposed to sargentlard, you are not only confirming my earlier statement, you are making a point to demonstrate your lack of proper debate and communication skills as well.

Either way, it would have reflected better on your online persona if you had followed the advice below.

Better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.
--This quote is believed to be misattributed to Mark Twain
 
Dapthar:

I believe the quote is from Thomas Jefferson, but worded a little differently...

And as for the rest, this is a free thought forum, not everything has to be insults, stupidity, or worthless. Lighten up!:D

The Topic:
I've been coming here once in a while since a year or so ago, and only recently getting involved in the topics. But i can't really say who is better at starting posts, never really pay attention to who is who cept when i respond to them.
 
Based on what sargentlard said earlier, your post falls into one of two categories

So I see you have adopted the tried mentality of "you're either with us or you're against us," Dapthar. Way to set an example for the more impressionable members of sciforums. Why can't you just see one shade of gray? Just one??

You're trying to be funny.

No, my short, authoritarian friend, I would prefer you replaced trying to with succeeding at. Yes, I know it may be hard to admit for someone with such a rigid, almost...how can I say it...old, catholic schoolmistress-like command of the English language, but yes, it is possible to make a humorous statement by keeping my mouth shut, as you have so aptly suggested with your Twain quote, and by simply using my middle finger to do the talking in its stead.

To keep things simple, I will suggest that you follow my advice instead of Twain's, when I say, Dapthar, that you really need to chill the fuck out.

I shall point my as-yet unused index finger to exhibit A, the only exhibit required so far, to prove that I am indeed a humorous personality. Examine my fifth post on the first page of this thread. There you will find that I have given several people the middle finger, in a joking manner, as I did to you. Later on, should you pass a glance at guthrie's reply to that post, you will see the telling sentence that shall prove my case--"*laughs at Pollux V*"

Such poetic words.

Because opinions cannot be proved totally, and because all facts are relative, we must resort to a simple tally. So far I think I am funny, as does guthrie. You think I am not funny. Your opinion is outnumbered 2:1, and the majority rules, I think, on this issue. Start a poll in Free Thoughts if you like, I'm sure the results will at the very least increase exponentially in my favor.

So there you have it, Dapthar. You asked for a meaningless debate and got your ass handed to you if I do say so for myself. So in the future, before making snide remarks a child holding a thesaurus could do a better job with, perhaps you ought to remember the age old tradition of chilling the fuck out.

*bows*
Thank you.
 
2899 posts and 16.37 posts per day says:
Gendy...deary get a life and stop worrying about your online rep.
The irony is suffocating, yes?

Fannie:
Now, if IYO is short for In Your Opinion, then that makes you a fibfuck.
Short for lying fuck..
 
Don’t ever misplace me again, Sarge. (gen)

doesnt the dankass read the topic post? provides links to shit she merely participated in? talk about insecurity!

*pollux rules! sarge rules!
 
Originally posted by Pollux V
So I see you have adopted the tried mentality of "you're either with us or you're against us," Dapthar.
You seem to have a misunderstanding of the methods I utilized in my previous post. It parallels a basic technique used in mathematical proofs; addressing all of the possible cases by means of negation. To utilize this idea, one simply considers the cases where a condition is present, and when it is not. Logic dictates that the aforementioned two cases cover all possibilities.

You are also mistaken in associating the "with us or against us" methodology with my post, for it misuses the proof technique of negation. To illustrate this, note that the negation of "with us" is "not with us" which is not equivalent to "against us". "Not with us" includes both "neutral" and "against us". Thus your first assertion about my mentality is incorrect, as is your perception of the ideology you mentioned.

Originally posted by Pollux V

No, my short, authoritarian friend, I would prefer you replaced trying to with succeeding at.
You are free to prefer what you wish, but my opinion remains unchanged since my last post, thus my previous reply will remain unedited for the forseeable future.

Originally posted by Pollux V

... yes, it is possible to make a humorous statement by keeping my mouth shut ...
This is not possible on a forum, where gestures must be typed, so you must "open your mouth" to convey any type of action, gesture, or idea.

Originally posted by Pollux V

To keep things simple, I will suggest that you follow my advice instead of Twain's, when I say, Dapthar, that you really need to chill....
I find it amusing that you are trying to impart advice unto me about proper posting, while you use rather foul language punctuate your statements. I suggest that you carefully evaluate your own posts, before you attempt to lecture me on proper posting etiquette.

Originally posted by Pollux V

Examine my fifth post on the first page of this thread. There you will find that I have given several people the middle finger, in a joking manner, as I did to you.
In my first post, I already considered the case in which you were attempting to convey your idea as a joke, and it remains an infantile attempt at humor.

Originally posted by Pollux V
Because opinions cannot be proved totally, and because all facts are relative, we must resort to a simple tally. So far I think I am funny, as does guthrie. You think I am not funny. Your opinion is outnumbered 2:1, and the majority rules, I think, on this issue.
By an extention of your reasoning, racist jokes made towards African-Americans during the mid 1950's to mid 1960's were funny, because during that time, the majority thought they were. This example illustrates that humor is relative, and as such, can not be determined by the rule of the majority, thus invalidating your point.

Originally posted by Pollux V
So in the future, before making snide remarks a child holding a thesaurus could do a better job with, perhaps you ought to remember the age old tradition of chilling ... out.
Again, you seem to find fault with my arguments, when yours are characterized by profanity, "humor", and poor reasoning. I suggest that before you reply to this post, you try to construct a well reasoned argument, rather than the poor collection of malformed ideas that comprised your previous reply.
 
in no particulare order:

sarg, fafnir, spurius monkey, gendenkan (though i havent been to too many of his threads), xev, and wes.

id put myself... sept all my threads suck.
 
Logic dictates that the aforementioned two cases cover all possibilities.

Incorrect. I could be trying to be serious and funny at the same time. Comedians do it constantly when they talk about how much the world sucks.

You are also mistaken in associating the "with us or against us" methodology with my post, for it misuses the proof technique of negation. To illustrate this, note that the negation of "with us" is "not with us" which is not equivalent to "against us". "Not with us" includes both "neutral" and "against us". Thus your first assertion about my mentality is incorrect, as is your perception of the ideology you mentioned.

Also incorrect. The with us or against us mentality is one that considers only two possibilities no matter the circumstance, and because you have not edited your post, by looking back I see only two possibilities, whereas I have pointed out that there are at least three. Beyond those three there are infinite varying degrees of either seriousness or comedy--thus, the shades of gray between black and white.

This is not possible on a forum, where gestures must be typed, so you must "open your mouth" to convey any type of action, gesture, or idea.

I see what you're trying to stay, but you're still wrong. On a forum, if I type *moons dapthar and defecates on his face* I am not saying these things aloud--they are not my words, they are my (pretend) actions. I am typing them, but they fall under a category different than the text I am writing now, because they are not spoken words but are instead actions. The asterisk (*) defines when events occur instead of spoken words, just like html code. So although I was typing, my mouth was still shut, both in the real world and in cyberspace as well.

I find it amusing that you are trying to impart advice unto me about proper posting, while you use rather foul language punctuate your statements.

I felt it necessary to make my statements stronger (as well as in bold) because you clearly needed to integrate them into your psyche.

I suggest that you carefully evaluate your own posts, before you attempt to lecture me on proper posting etiquette.

Dapthar, you've done nothing but be impolite and unnecessarily vicious to everyone I've so far seen you interact with. I do not follow this regimen by any means, and for the most part I interact with people in either a friendly or a friendly-cocky manner while on this forum and while also in the real world. Although it's possible that I am wrong, you are the only person I know that I can think of that is not friendly with me.

In my first post, I already considered the case in which you were attempting to convey your idea as a joke, and it remains an infantile attempt at humor.

Say what you will. *hands dapthar a roll of toilet paper*

By an extention of your reasoning, racist jokes made towards African-Americans during the mid 1950's to mid 1960's were funny, because during that time, the majority thought they were. This example illustrates that humor is relative, and as such, can not be determined by the rule of the majority, thus invalidating your point.

Humor is relative to the timeperiod, Dapthar. We don't find those jokes funny because our culture is different than it was back then (we generally make fun of whites instead). Last time I checked the three of us, and my watch, we were all part of the same time period. People in the future may not find what I'm saying funny, but I say, to hell with those assholes!

Almost anything can be argued as being relative, humor being one of the easiest topics to do so. That's why I made a tally, to account for different opinions. So far I'm still beating you.

Again, you seem to find fault with my arguments, when yours are characterized by profanity, "humor", and poor reasoning

*gives Dapthar the finger, and smiles*
 
Originally posted by Pollux V
Incorrect. I could be trying to be serious and funny at the same time.
I find it amusing that you consider a direct consequence of the rules of logic incorrect. Note that you did not include a case that was outside of the cases "trying to be funny" or "not trying to be funny". Instead, you state that you were attempting to be "serious and funny" which clearly falls into the first category. I suggest you study logic a bit more carefully before trying to disprove one of its fundamental ideas.

Originally posted by Pollux V
Also incorrect. The with us or against us mentality is one that considers only two possibilities no matter the circumstance, ...
As I discussed in my previous post, this mentality is flawed for the aforementioned reasons.

Originally posted by Pollux V
Beyond those three there are infinite varying degrees of either seriousness or comedy--thus, the shades of gray between black and white.
Those cases are included in my initial analysis of your post. All instances in which were trying to be funny are addressed in the first case, and those in which you are not are addressed in the second case. Logic dictates that the negation method covers all cases since the statement P OR ~P is a tautology.

Originally posted by Pollux V
I see what you're trying to stay, but you're still wrong. ... I am not saying these things aloud--they are not my words, they are my (pretend) actions. I am typing them, but they fall under a category different than the text I am writing now, because they are not spoken words but are instead actions. The asterisk (*) defines when events occur instead of spoken words, just like html code. So although I was typing, my mouth was still shut, both in the real world and in cyberspace as well.
Your argument continues to weaken your ideas, and add support to mine. You even clarify the distinction between a gesture in the real world, and one in the virtual, and that to "type" a gesture is a premeditated act, thus removing it from the realm of subconscious, or even low level conscious thought. Thus, even though the asterisk may signal an action, the act of typing forces you to convey it in the exact same manner as any other idea on this forum, thus forcing you to "open your mouth".

Originally posted by Pollux V
I felt it necessary to make my statements stronger (as well as in bold) because you clearly needed to integrate them into your psyche.
It may have not been clear in my previous post, but by utilizing profanity, you have weakened your statements, since use of such language reflects negatively upon the poster.


Originally posted by Pollux V
Dapthar, you've done nothing but be impolite and unnecessarily vicious to everyone I've so far seen you interact with.
Then apparently you do not frequent the Physics & Math forum. In there, I answer questions that are within my scope to the best of my ability, for the posters I respond to make it a point to be polite.

Simply so you do not have to take my word for it, I direct you to the following threads: Analytic Functions , Basic vectors?, and Frozen Clouds. Granted this not a large amount of examples, but since this post is my 38th, it should suffice.

Many more examples of posts where I attempt to help others are available if you simply visit my post history, located at the following link: http://www.sciforums.com/search.php?s=&action=showresults&searchid=214907.

Originally posted by Pollux V
I do not follow this regimen by any means, and for the most part I interact with people in either a friendly or a friendly-cocky manner while on this forum and while also in the real world. Although it's possible that I am wrong, you are the only person I know that I can think of that is not friendly with me.
I do not follow the aforementioned regimen that you have ascribed to me, and counterexamples to your generalization are shown above.

Originally posted by Pollux V
Almost anything can be argued as being relative, humor being one of the easiest topics to do so. That's why I made a tally, to account for different opinions. So far I'm still beating you.
Again, I discussed the futility of such actions previously, but to reiterate, the majority can not absolutely determine the humor content of an idea. Thus, it does not matter if you get 50 people who think you are funny, it will not change my opinion of the humor content of your earlier post, since humor is relative.

Your arguments were a great deal more organized this time, but it does not compensate for your use of crude humor, or the poor methodology used to support your ideas.
 
I have decided to omit several of your points from the argument, Dapthar, because I believe that we are going around in circles on issues that can clearly not be proven succinctly. Should you disagree with my doing this don't hesitate to restate what you believe I should negate. I have also chosen to do this because it is, how can I say...exhausting, I guess, to argue that 2+2=5 instead of 4. There's just no payoff.

Again, I discussed the futility of such actions previously, but to reiterate, the majority can not absolutely determine the humor content of an idea.

Then who can, Dapthar? The minority?

In a way you are correct--but again, that's why I turned to the tally. Since humor is relative, it is true, it cannot succinctly be proven that my comments are funny. However the opposite also cannot be proven. Responses to humor clearly vary between human beings, whereas a mathematical, or logical formula, such as 2+2=4, seems to be thought of as a true statement by most people who know how to do simple math--excluding Winston, of course. Because they vary, if we make a tally, we will find that while the majority are not correct, they might as well be correct because they are the majority and the majority rules when it is a matter of opinion. For exhibit A, I will present to you every functioning republic or democracy on Earth.

Your arguments were a great deal more organized this time, but it does not compensate for your use of crude humor, or the poor methodology used to support your ideas

Everybody has to compensate for something...
 
Originally posted by gendanken
2899 posts and 16.37 posts per day says:

The irony is suffocating, yes?

No it ain't sweatheart.....i don't stress my importance here....you, however ache to do such. Get a fucking life you nitwit. You have nothing to offer besides tiresome insults and boring angst laced with impressive verbosity. Those post are during a whole day when i swing by here between work breaks.....

All that glitters isn't gold and you ain't no gold.


P.S. Plus you know i love you Gendy;)
 
Sarge:
No it ain't sweatheart.....i don't stress my importance here....you, however ache to do such
This is the occupational hazard of a thread flirter: blind assumption.
I cannot be held accountable for the watered down bias of a "reading idler".

"Ache" is your folly.

Get a fucking life you nitwit
I would argue with an idiot but then he will drag me down and beat me with experience. That, and I'm up against the irony of some 2900 posts full of what the Spaniards call either "nada" or "caca".

All that glitters isn't gold and you ain't no gold.
Oh? Like the Venus the Milo, maybe? as in beautiful but not all there?
Fucking interesting.

Millions run to the fountain and drink up the knowledge, Sarge. Others, like you, only stand there and gargle. Benchwarming.

P.S. Plus you know i love you Gendy
Sounds like a heat shield. But I never assume malice for what stupidity can fucking easily explain sooooooo.......surfeit, suffice says Willy.
 
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Gendy....Ouch and ouch...

You made excellent points there. I have some good posts....*checks*..ok i don't so sue me.

Well i believe we are even now. I wanted to state my case and you most definetly presented yours. I just wanted to say that you are over assertive and i did and you wanted to say that i am a worthless, space wasting, useless, "caca", "Nada" poster and you did. Now that is over i am anding this here. You see i have no ill will towards you, i just wanted to point out something i observed of your character. I know if i respond back in insults you will do the same and it will go on and on and on (for further example of this see the Tiassa thread...i am sure you know which one i am reffering to =) ) But i have nothing to insult you with, besides untimed insults you are a great person to read from and i was very harsh in the language i used to call you that (3 hrs of daily NY commute does that to you). I would like to say sorry for that and on my behalf i would like to say "Ouch"...damn.....


But I never assume malice for what stupidity can fucking easily explain

On the nose with that one.

Sounds like a heat shield

I am in the bushes right now admiring your view. No heat shield at all....just pure stalking.
 
I am gonna emerge out of my self-imposed silence(meditating) to say this: Sarge, that was pathetic and shameful. You sounded like a whipped sissy crying for his mama after getting bitched slapped. Absolutely disgusting. You state an opinion about who you think creates the best threads and you end up apologizing??? What the fuck is with you bro? Get the fuck up man; stand and defend your fucking opinions and don't let people walk over you like a fucking punk! man, fuck. I am so fucking disgusted I am gonna take a shot of Brandy and take a walk.
 
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