Bashing republican\democrats thread
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Yeah, you didn't answer a thing I just asked you. Since Kerry is taking such an negative view on the war, I believe one of his first attempts will be to take the troops out of Iraq and focus forces (maybe) in afghanistan. If he doesn't decide to put forces in afghanistan than I believe he will concentrate on domestic programs and basically leave foreign affairs alone as much as possible.
Now if he does do this, the weak ass "government" (if that's what you want to call it) that we have in Iraq would fall almost immediatly and a radical, crazed manic, much worse than saddam, will rise up to power (another Hitler?) and will be poised on getting the U.S back for what we've done. Not sure how much he would be able to do, but I'm sure that if he could rise up to power then he'll find a way to either 1. Find allies whom are sympathetic to his goals (looking at how many nations hate us that shouldn't be to hard) or 2. Find a more efficient way of trade and receive enough much to truly fund a way to make WMD.
Either way Terrorism will probably be on a rise since the U.S just got themselves into a neck full of shit and unless followed through alot more lives will be lost than there should have been.
Now if he does do this, the weak ass "government" (if that's what you want to call it) that we have in Iraq would fall almost immediatly and a radical, crazed manic, much worse than saddam, will rise up to power (another Hitler?) and will be poised on getting the U.S back for what we've done. Not sure how much he would be able to do, but I'm sure that if he could rise up to power then he'll find a way to either 1. Find allies whom are sympathetic to his goals (looking at how many nations hate us that shouldn't be to hard) or 2. Find a more efficient way of trade and receive enough much to truly fund a way to make WMD.
Either way Terrorism will probably be on a rise since the U.S just got themselves into a neck full of shit and unless followed through alot more lives will be lost than there should have been.
bush is the lord
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theres a new site in honor of the lord our savior GWBush
http://www.bushislord.com
check it out and leave all your money, thank you
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Gravity
Have you thought one up yet?
You could start with an apology for your attitude.
Beyond that, there's not much you can say. You're indefensible.
I think neither reading comprehension nor transitions are that tall of a demand. Then again, I've overestimated my neighbors before. Look at this: I'm responding to you at all, once again indicative of my overestimation of your faculties.
It would have been to your benefit to actually attempt a substantive response.
Too bad you can't be bothered to have integrity, Gravity. But thank you for clearing that up for me.
Votorx
If Bob is running after you with a knife and is ready to kill you no matter what, are you going to shoot Bob, or are you going to turn aside and shoot Tom?
Otheadp
It's his cloven tongue we're worried about, not his cloven hoof. That latter is merely a convenient coincidence.
Gravity
Have you thought one up yet?
You could start with an apology for your attitude.
Beyond that, there's not much you can say. You're indefensible.
I think neither reading comprehension nor transitions are that tall of a demand. Then again, I've overestimated my neighbors before. Look at this: I'm responding to you at all, once again indicative of my overestimation of your faculties.
It would have been to your benefit to actually attempt a substantive response.
Too bad you can't be bothered to have integrity, Gravity. But thank you for clearing that up for me.
Votorx
If Bob is running after you with a knife and is ready to kill you no matter what, are you going to shoot Bob, or are you going to turn aside and shoot Tom?
Otheadp
It's his cloven tongue we're worried about, not his cloven hoof. That latter is merely a convenient coincidence.
Source: Seattle Times (AP)
Link: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002075416_webhalliburton28.html
Title: "FBI investigating how Halliburton got contracts"
Date: October 28, 2004
Comment:
Some folks suggest anti-Bush sentiment is an irrational hatred. While I think such a reduction of issues is in itself irrational and worthy of ridicule, the Halliburton issue is an excellent example: If mistrusting the administration is so "hateful", why does the administration consistently live up to these allegedly "hateful" concerns?
Simply, if everything is as square as the administration would like us to believe, what's with the necessary appearance of impropriety? To the other, if everything is remotely as crooked as it appears, how much more are the people expected to tolerate?
So a politician botched a bunch, alienated our neighbors, and found a new low standard for political integrity. That's no reason to vote for someone else, is it? After all, what could be more hateful than paying attention to what's going on?
When "small government" conservatives want to stick their noses into your home--be it your speech, your sex, or what you're allowed to teach your children--a classic response becoming antiquated for its complexity is, simply, "If you're law-abiding, you don't have anything to worry about". Well, Cheney and Bush, apparently being squeaky-clean in their ethical postures, should go ahead and cough up the energy notes, openly assist the prosecution of officials responsible for prisoner abuses, and hold accountable those responsible for the Guantanamo travesty against international human rights.
Remember, giving your opinion as to the state of the economy is apparently as hateful as lying outright.
Progress: Bush/Cheney '04. Soon we won't have anything to say, because there will be nothing left. And besides, if you find something to say, you're just not "with us".
If we look at the nightmares of the folks who "hate" Bush based on history--including that before his own presidency--we might wonder how hateful they are when the administration goes to such lengths to vindicate their concerns.
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Link: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002075416_webhalliburton28.html
Title: "FBI investigating how Halliburton got contracts"
Date: October 28, 2004
Comment:
Some folks suggest anti-Bush sentiment is an irrational hatred. While I think such a reduction of issues is in itself irrational and worthy of ridicule, the Halliburton issue is an excellent example: If mistrusting the administration is so "hateful", why does the administration consistently live up to these allegedly "hateful" concerns?
Simply, if everything is as square as the administration would like us to believe, what's with the necessary appearance of impropriety? To the other, if everything is remotely as crooked as it appears, how much more are the people expected to tolerate?
So a politician botched a bunch, alienated our neighbors, and found a new low standard for political integrity. That's no reason to vote for someone else, is it? After all, what could be more hateful than paying attention to what's going on?
When "small government" conservatives want to stick their noses into your home--be it your speech, your sex, or what you're allowed to teach your children--a classic response becoming antiquated for its complexity is, simply, "If you're law-abiding, you don't have anything to worry about". Well, Cheney and Bush, apparently being squeaky-clean in their ethical postures, should go ahead and cough up the energy notes, openly assist the prosecution of officials responsible for prisoner abuses, and hold accountable those responsible for the Guantanamo travesty against international human rights.
Remember, giving your opinion as to the state of the economy is apparently as hateful as lying outright.
Progress: Bush/Cheney '04. Soon we won't have anything to say, because there will be nothing left. And besides, if you find something to say, you're just not "with us".
If we look at the nightmares of the folks who "hate" Bush based on history--including that before his own presidency--we might wonder how hateful they are when the administration goes to such lengths to vindicate their concerns.
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Notes:
Solomon, John. "FBI investigating how Halliburton got contracts". Seattle Times (Associated Press), October 28, 2004. See http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002075416_webhalliburton28.html
Wow, digging around back there Tiassa!? I'd forgotten about that, and was trying to help just now by posting that link to the drunken Shrub. Sorry you are still dwelling on that! I was over it and had dropped it. Besides, since I strive now to overcome my ''illiteracy'' I have a lot of work to do!
Look, politically we really are on a similar page, but we both took each other wrong. I am not claiming to have been innocent of poking back a bit hard, something in the discussion got under my skin - and rightly or wrongly I reacted strongly. We are complex beings, I'm far too busy to go back and analyze myself during that snapshot of time. But I'll apologize for any of it which seemed completely unprovoked.
However, if you feel you were completely benign and innocent in the entire exchange, then that is wrong as well. But like I said, it was behind hem.
I hate this kind of thing, considering what is happening in our country, it seems like one of the best tactics the Theocratic-Fascists could take is "divide and conquer".
Look, politically we really are on a similar page, but we both took each other wrong. I am not claiming to have been innocent of poking back a bit hard, something in the discussion got under my skin - and rightly or wrongly I reacted strongly. We are complex beings, I'm far too busy to go back and analyze myself during that snapshot of time. But I'll apologize for any of it which seemed completely unprovoked.
However, if you feel you were completely benign and innocent in the entire exchange, then that is wrong as well. But like I said, it was behind hem.
I hate this kind of thing, considering what is happening in our country, it seems like one of the best tactics the Theocratic-Fascists could take is "divide and conquer".
Peace :m:
He did not seem to drunk.
(Go ahead, baby ... Title me!)
Gravity
Nope. Just attending to old business: sometimes we have to let certain processes carry through. I mean, what, did you expect me to simply leave your dishonesty without a response? Sure, you wished, but did you really expect it?
A separate issue, entirely. And the world thanks you. And so do I, as I just would have dumped my copy of it into a shared file and served it from there.
WCF
I think it's a kind assessment to call him drunk; to describe him as "just being the whack-job yahoo that he is" just ... well, remember this is an election cycle and truth is hateful and a disservice to America.
Or something like that. Yeah, I'm dubious about it, too, but between a bunch of honorable veterans and the President, well, they deserve that respect, don't they? That benefit of the doubt? Especially from all of us ignoramuses who are either too stupid or cowardly to become trained killers, or too poor to have our lives bought for us?
But, yeah ... pardoning him for having a couple too many is the kind option. Simply acknowledging that yes, this is the man who is president ... well, that's just downright hateful. We must give him the pardon of age and guile, time and circumstance, blindness and deafness.
Gravity
Gravity said:
Nope. Just attending to old business: sometimes we have to let certain processes carry through. I mean, what, did you expect me to simply leave your dishonesty without a response? Sure, you wished, but did you really expect it?
A separate issue, entirely. And the world thanks you. And so do I, as I just would have dumped my copy of it into a shared file and served it from there.
WCF
WellCookedFetus said:
I think it's a kind assessment to call him drunk; to describe him as "just being the whack-job yahoo that he is" just ... well, remember this is an election cycle and truth is hateful and a disservice to America.
Or something like that. Yeah, I'm dubious about it, too, but between a bunch of honorable veterans and the President, well, they deserve that respect, don't they? That benefit of the doubt? Especially from all of us ignoramuses who are either too stupid or cowardly to become trained killers, or too poor to have our lives bought for us?
But, yeah ... pardoning him for having a couple too many is the kind option. Simply acknowledging that yes, this is the man who is president ... well, that's just downright hateful. We must give him the pardon of age and guile, time and circumstance, blindness and deafness.
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Gee tiassa, I was just making an honest non-bias based observation. I can't just say Bush eats babies and suck the blood of virgins just because it makes him look bad, it’s not true. The truth is not stunning, exaggerations are always a more effective weapon in politics.
WCF
I was just using your non-bias based observation as a springboard. This new conservative political correctness is confusing. I've no doubt he had a few, but I don't think his alcohol intake affected much about his behavior in that video.
I was just using your non-bias based observation as a springboard. This new conservative political correctness is confusing. I've no doubt he had a few, but I don't think his alcohol intake affected much about his behavior in that video.