Bashing republican\democrats thread

MacM said:
Actually both parties have historically supported Free trade; however Kerry has at least claimed he will offer tax incentives to companies that create jobs here and penalize those that out source.
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Like the Heinz Corporation? Sure he'll vote for offering tax incentives, before he votes against it. :p
 
Kerry: Not supporting Assault Weapons Ban helps Al Queda
Washington -- Sen. John Kerry charged Friday that President Bush was helping terrorists and caving in to the National Rifle Association by not pushing to extend the 10-year-old federal assault weapons ban that expires at 12:01 a.m. Monday.

The Democratic presidential nominee said an al Qaeda training manual recovered in Afghanistan advised terrorists that it is easy to obtain guns in the United States, and he said the 10-year-old ban on 19 types of semiautomatic guns and on ammunition clips of more than 10 rounds helped curb would-be terrorist attacks.

"In the al Qaeda manual, they were telling people to go out and buy assault weapons, to come to America and buy assault weapons,'' Kerry told an audience in St. Louis.
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This is the most insipid election ever. Why would Al-Qaeda manuals tell people to draw attention to themselves by buying assault weapons when they're apparantly able to pull off the worst act of terrorism in American history with box cutters?

Oh yeah, they don't.

This is not going to help him. Bill Clinton actually came right out and said that support for gun control was one of the major reasons Democrats lost the 2000 election -- there were several swing states where union members voted gun rights over voting with their union, and it made the difference, and polls afterwards showed so. Why do you think the AWB renewal didn't pass? Note also how drastically funding for and membership in gun-grabbing organizations, like the so-called "million mom march," (down to 2500 this past spring) has dried up and died off.

The only people still supporting gun control are reactionaries who've made it their career (Feinstein), shills who'll claim to support anything without even thinking about it (Kerry) and dupes who've fallen for the propaganda (partisans). The actual strategic thinkers on the left know that gun control is a losing issue and have already dropped it.

Most intelligent Democrats are abandoning this issue.
 
...and dupes who've fallen for the propaganda (partisans)
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So, your not partisan in any way? You don't prefer one party over another? So I assume you don't vote? Or just toss a coin when you vote? :cool:
 
Gravity said:
So, your not partisan in any way? You don't prefer one party over another? So I assume you don't vote? Or just toss a coin when you vote? :cool:
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Your assumption is wrong. Nice try though.
 
Well, you still didn't address your seeming self-contradiction then. You speak skeptically of partisanship . . . so you are not partisan in any way? :)
 
If Americans want to live in society with automatic guns let them do it! I agree with Stokes on this one for Kerry, in lieu of the dramatically more important issues that face the US today, “terrorism”, globalization, a losing war in Iraq, budgetary, and trade deficits, debt, creeping inflation, Nuclear North Korea, potential Iran, rabid Israel, stretched US military, outsourcing, lost US moral authority… should he squander this opportunity to save the US from itself over a trivial issue like guns…Kerry deserves to lose, and the American people deserve what they will get.
 
Gravity said:
Well, you still didn't address your seeming self-contradiction then. You speak skeptically of partisanship . . . so you are not partisan in any way? :)
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Shrug. I've voted all over the spectrum. At the moment I most closely identify with the Libertarian Party philosophy. It really is too bad they're a badly fragmented, poorly led, unelectable joke.
 
Oh, ok then - cool. I agree with you there, reality is more complex than just two answers to every question. And our political system should reflect that. The two party system is not enough, and I too tend to identify much more with 3rd party options. Here in Vermont these days its mostly the Progressives that have the right ring to their ideas for me.
 
It really is too bad they're a badly fragmented, poorly led, unelectable joke.

What do you want your libertarians...think about that irony.
 
Pangloss said:
The proof is the fact that if he weren't running for office there's not a Republican voter in this country who wouldn't stop to salute this man on the street and thank him for his service to the country.

Unbelievable. Frankly I'm downright embarassed to be a Bush supporter when I see crap like this.
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Kerry was thanked publicly by Cheney for his Vietnam service at the opening of his speech during the Republican convention.
 
Kerry was thanked publicly by Cheney for his Vietnam service at the opening of his speech during the Republican convention.
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Yeah, it was not scripted/tactical at all right? :rolleyes: Basically "I want to thank John Kerry for his service in Vietnam, but he is still a scumbag who will ruin this nation. And if you don't vote Republican you will all die!" :cool:
 
"When I give food to the poor they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food they call me a communist."

- Dom Helder Camara
 
Stokes Pennwalt said:
It's so unfunny it's almost funny.

Almost.
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Of course it is not going to be funny to a libertarian...and its not meant to be a “haha” funny either. It’s a quip at the stupidity and futility of libertarian, and that’s proven to be true in the fact as you so point out It really is too bad they're a badly fragmented, poorly led, unelectable joke.Somewhat resembles your arguments…the libertarian tradition I assume?
 
Hideki Matsumoto said:
I say F*** all of this........... I am going Marxist!!
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again? I thought you just came form Cuba? what were you before, Leninist?
 
Gravity said:
Yeah, it was not scripted/tactical at all right? :rolleyes: Basically "I want to thank John Kerry for his service in Vietnam, but he is still a scumbag who will ruin this nation. And if you don't vote Republican you will all die!" : cool :
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funny, how Kerry has fallen into the republican trap, if he speaks on the issues, he blasts Bush,

if he defends his actions, he falls, case in point;
Bush ducked Viet Nam, so Repu's blast Kerry on Viet Nam
Iraq going bad, so Repu's blast Kerry on the fight against Terror
Kerry changes his mind, Repu's blast Kerry as a flip-floper
Bush changes his mind, he's a leader, strong, decisive

I'd rather they stick to the issues, if its possible?
 
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