Bah Bah Black Sheep

[I-Am-Invisible]

Here's another poster if anyone has any doubts
Undoubtedly racist.

http://de.altermedia.info/images/PNOS-Plakat260904.gif

The PNOS is the equivalent of Stormfront.
They don't seem to have got any votes. (see above)
I think that in these posters they were trying to get people to vote SVP.
(Any swiss people about who can let us know?)

btw: I have never seen this poster before so they don't really have any influance

no, they don't get any mentionable votes (they have only 130 members) and they are not trying to get people to vote for the svp, just "no" for the volksinitiative (and the svp just happens to have the same opinion)

just that you understand, this is a "volksinitiative" this means any group, party or whaterver can start collecting signitures for a cause an if they can collect 100'000 in 18 months there will be a vote, where everyone entitled to vote can do so...

of course if the people have that kind of power a lot of groups will want to use it to promote their interressts. we had failed initiatives (that couldn't get the signatures) like: a ban on hunting, ban on pelt/fur imports, a initiative to abolish mandatory health insurance, ban on butchering animals without narcotics, initiative for freespeech and abolishing ban on racists comments and the list goes on and on... (many about imigration, taxes and insurances)

feel free to look for yourself:click

If they are so averse to foreigners why don't they just stop all immigration into the country? Why take in people and then ridicule them?

so please don't generalies everything what a a right party does/says. sometime next year there might be a vote so you can wait until then to criticise us

and no we are not adverse to immigration, as I said before, the general/public opinion is, that we don't mind where someone comes from aslong as they stick to the rules.

and about the jews in ww2, nearly every christian country was partially anti semitic that has historical reasons, and being sourrounded by the 3rd reich surley wasn't that nice, they had to comply with the axis forces to a certain degree to avoid invasion.

so we're not that conservative as you probably think...

 

[Grantywanty]

Sounds like a great idea. Let's start with the shit stirring Muslims.

No, let's start with the Americans and their horrible quality food chains and 7-11s that are making us fat, their cutthroat efficiency programs in our workplaces that are creating unemployment and assembly line jobs on all levels, their culture with its bombardment of noise everywhere - elevators, the streets, supermarkets.....- and their boorish expatriots who never bother to learn the language and assume that if they buy large pieces of the country they have the right to eliminate all indigenous culture.

The effects of the Mulsim immigrants are minor by comparison.

 

[mountainhare]

Ok, them too. I guess the ethnicity of the shit-stirrers must be different in your home country.

 

[Captain Kremmen]

btw: I have never seen this poster before so they don't really have any influance

no, they don't get any mentionable votes (they have only 130 members) and they are not trying to get people to vote for the svp, just "no" for the volksinitiative (and the svp just happens to have the same opinion)

just that you understand, this is a "volksinitiative" this means any group, party or whaterver can start collecting signitures for a cause an if they can collect 100'000 in 18 months there will be a vote, where everyone entitled to vote can do so...

of course if the people have that kind of power a lot of groups will want to use it to promote their interressts. we had failed initiatives (that couldn't get the signatures) like: a ban on hunting, ban on pelt/fur imports, a initiative to abolish mandatory health insurance, ban on butchering animals without narcotics, initiative for freespeech and abolishing ban on racists comments and the list goes on and on... (many about imigration, taxes and insurances)

feel free to look for yourself:click



so please don't generalies everything what a a right party does/says. sometime next year there might be a vote so you can wait until then to criticise us

and no we are not adverse to immigration, as I said before, the general/public opinion is, that we don't mind where someone comes from aslong as they stick to the rules.

and about the jews in ww2, nearly every christian country was partially anti semitic that has historical reasons, and being sourrounded by the 3rd reich surley wasn't that nice, they had to comply with the axis forces to a certain degree to avoid invasion.

so we're not that conservative as you probably think...

Thanks. Yes, I can see that it was support on a single issue.
And it may not hae been welcomed by the SVP.
The use of the SVP logo on the PNOS's other posters gave the false impression that they were affiliated.

Could you explain the Volksinitiative.
I have googled it, but I can't find much in English.
Are you saying that the SVP is supporting the principle of referendums
and not the PNOS policies?
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What is your own feeling on this subject?

 

[Sock puppet path]

No, let's start with the Americans and their horrible quality food chains and 7-11s that are making us fat, their cutthroat efficiency programs in our workplaces that are creating unemployment and assembly line jobs on all levels, their culture with its bombardment of noise everywhere - elevators, the streets, supermarkets.....- and their boorish expatriots who never bother to learn the language and assume that if they buy large pieces of the country they have the right to eliminate all indigenous culture..

Mener du at vi aldri lærer språket i det landet vi flytter til? Bra at du ikke generaliserer tosk.

 

[(Q)]

And the black hand that won them the election?

Are you really that dense?

It looks like, according to the article you linked, that YOU are the dense one. Where in that article does it support your bigoted interpretation?

 

[S.A.M.]

It looks like, according to the article you linked, that YOU are the dense one. Where in that article does it support your bigoted interpretation?

So lets hear your interpretation; why the black hand?

 

[(Q)]

So lets hear your interpretation; why the black hand?

What about it? It looks like it's there with other dark brown hands. What's your bigoted point?

 

[S.A.M.]

What about it? It looks like it's there with other dark brown hands. What's your bigoted point?

Are you Sirius?

 

[(Q)]

Uh... ok.:shrug:

 

[Enmos]

Uh... ok.:shrug:

I think she's trying to say you are the brightest star in the night sky to her

 

[S.A.M.]

I think she's trying to say you are the brightest star in the night sky to her

I'm not even touching that with a 10 foot pole (or a noodly appendage )

I was just pointing out the obvious.

 

[(Q)]

I think she's trying to say you are the brightest star in the night sky to her

lol, so true.

 

[(Q)]

I was just pointing out the obvious.

Obvious to who?

 

[Enmos]

I'm not even touching that with a 10 foot pole (or a noodly appendage )

I was just pointing out the obvious.

LOL I haven't followed the discussion, but I just had to say that

 

[Count Sudoku]

hey CD

Thank you for youre analysis

I dont know anyone who says he/she is anti racist. I heard people sya they are non racist but anti racist. And waht do you ean anti racist means anti white, how is that possible. are you saying their are white hating whites or something??

~~~~
cheers
zak

Absolutely there are white people who hate white people. They are called liberals.

 

[Outback]

Isn't it interesting that such an explaination is seen as valid by the vast (or if not vast, significant) proportion of the world. Yet if a Westerner/whitey were to oppose immigration for the exact same reason (an influx of immigrants would tear the demographic to pieces), they would be branded 'racist'.

Why is this?

Why is it acceptable for Israel ('The Jewish nation') to retain its homogeny, whereas it is 'racist' for many Western nations around the world to do the same?

Largely because westerners, white westerners in particular, feel guilt when called to account for it. White guilt.
You'll notice that S.A.M. and the others completely ignored this little exchange - they do not wish to view themselves in the same light as that which they atttempt to paint others by. They have found a weakness, a sore spot if you will... and exploit that for all that it is worth.

What it seems they fail to understand is that that very guilt is the result of a cultural maturity and understanding that they have so far failed to demonstrate themselves. Unfortunately, it is also our weakness. Any culture not prepared to defend itself will surely fall eventually.

 

[S.A.M.]

Largely because westerners, white westerners in particular, feel guilt when called to account for it. White guilt.
You'll notice that S.A.M. and the others completely ignored this little exchange - they do not wish to view themselves in the same light as that which they atttempt to paint others by. They have found a weakness, a sore spot if you will... and exploit that for all that it is worth.

What it seems they fail to understand is that that very guilt is the result of a cultural maturity and understanding that they have so far failed to demonstrate themselves. Unfortunately, it is also our weakness. Any culture not prepared to defend itself will surely fall eventually.

Its mostly because all the white guilt does not stop them from continuing to loot the people from other cultures at the same time as they whine about maintaining the homogeneity of their own. See any racists boycotting stuff that comes from other countries? Any of them willing to replace the immigrant workers at work? Pick fruit and vegetables or pay 6 dollars a tomato? Hello? Anyone?

Besides, no one invited them to commit mass genocide on the populations they decimated and replaced. All the guilt in the world does not change that.

 

[Enmos]

Absolutely they're white people who hate white people. They are called liberals.

Anti-racist doesn't mean anti-white.. what nonsense. An anti-racist is someone that is opposed to(anti) hatred or intolerance of another race or other races(racist).

Liberal means "favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs".

 

[Count Sudoku]

Largely because westerners, white westerners in particular, feel guilt when called to account for it. White guilt.

So true.

You'll notice that S.A.M. and the others completely ignored this little exchange - they do not wish to view themselves in the same light as that which they atttempt to paint others by. They have found a weakness, a sore spot if you will... and exploit that for all that it is worth.

So true.

What it seems they fail to understand is that that very guilt is the result of a cultural maturity and understanding that they have so far failed to demonstrate themselves. Unfortunately, it is also our weakness. Any culture not prepared to defend itself will surely fall eventually.

So true.