Atheism is a belief.

I know how to use a dictionary.

  • Yes, and I incorporate its info.

    Votes: 28 57.1%

  • Yes, but I still like to make up definitions as I go along.

    Votes: 10 20.4%

  • No, I believe in "Truthiness"

    Votes: 17 34.7%
  • Total voters
    49
Sure, it happens all the time.
I tend to respond to many assertions: Oh, I doubt that. This means <50%.

It will snow tomorrow.

I doubt that.

It is possible, but I doubt it.

(maybe I am missing something here. I also keep thinking of three door choices. The horse is behind door number 2. I don't have a shit idea, but I will bet against this assertion. I have more belief the assertion is false, but I do not know. this given that I don't think the other person knows. Somethign I could be wrong about, but certainly in some situations I would think I could guess that pretty accurately)
 
wow, 58 pages!

I'm not that interested in the thread, but lets go for a record for the longest thread!!

I say our goal for now is 100!
 
Unless an agreement can be reached on the definition of a word (e.g. belief), then further discussion belongs in the linguistic forum, IMO.
 
Simon Anders said:
Well, it actually comes from a word based on Thea, and meant someone who worshipped Thea and then spread to mean someone who believe in the gods, and then someone who believed in one transcendant God and so on.

But it has to do with the beliefs of the person designated rather than the presence of God.

In fact some theists might say they were not in the presence of God - perhaps due to their own shortcomings - but would still claim to be theists and would be correct in this if they believe in God.
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If they believe in god, what god? For now, let's say the god of the KJV. If someone believes in that god, they believe in its word. They believe menstruation is a sickness & women should stay away from others during it & for several days after. They believe Earth has 4 corners. The sun stood still. There was a day before the sun & Earth were created. No man with defective genitals should enter the church. Witches, homosexuals & disobedient children should be stoned to death. Rape victims should be forced to marry their attackers. Slavery is OK. Men shouldn't marry unless they just can't control their lust. Christians should preach to animals. It was good for a bear to maul children who mocked a prophet.
Show me a christian who believes & follows that.
 
StrangerInAStrangeLa said:
If they believe in god, what god? For now, let's say the god of the KJV. If someone believes in that god, they believe in its word. They believe menstruation is a sickness & women should stay away from others during it & for several days after. They believe Earth has 4 corners. The sun stood still. There was a day before the sun & Earth were created. No man with defective genitals should enter the church. Witches, homosexuals & disobedient children should be stoned to death. Rape victims should be forced to marry their attackers. Slavery is OK. Men shouldn't marry unless they just can't control their lust. Christians should preach to animals. It was good for a bear to maul children who mocked a prophet.
Show me a christian who believes & follows that.
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What the fuck...?
This is a totally bogus argument. It's both a straw man and an ad hom.

Tesla was into eugenics and had OCD. Does that make his electrical theories wrong in their entirety?
 
Superluminal: Let me guess. None, since the lightbulb is just a philosophical construct based on an illusion of self and free will?
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Well, I meant it as a straight line and you did a nice job and this should be its own thread.

Off the top of my head....

Kant:
A philosopher cannot screw in a light bulb, it being a Ding an sich, but it seems he or she can intend to do this and have the repeated experience of the phenomenon of a light bulb being screwed in occur shortly afterwards.

Husserl:
Regardless of the number, the ever changing - rather than expected to be stable - darkness should be annotated thoroughly. (ie. Mrs. Husserl changes the light bulb and gets chastized - this being a very common result amongst philosophers. Essentially the answer is 'none', their spouses have to do it.)

Friedrich Nietzsche

"Love is not consolation. It is light."
Therefore two philosophers.

The skeptic has no reason to do anything, of course. How can one be sure the light bulb needs to be changed?
The solipsist has only one possible answer.
and so on.
 
StrangerInAStrangeLa said:
Absurd

Who claimed Tesla is an infallible god who should be worshipped & whose infallible word should be lived by?
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It doesn't matter on the claims- the logic behind his claims is weak.

Israelites claim there is a God. From this they define God.
Example:
God exists.
If God exists, he wants women to marry their rapers.
God exists, therefore we should force women to marry the man who raped them (what are you supposed to do about gang rapes, though? Is it the first man who penetrated, or the last man to ejaculate, or how?)

That tends to be the structure of the Old Hebrew texts, anyway. God exists without question, from this they derive a moral set.

So they could be wrong on the conclusion, but that says nothing of their major premise.
 
Roman said:
It doesn't matter on the claims- the logic behind his claims is weak.

Israelites claim there is a God. From this they define God.
Example:
God exists.
If God exists, he wants women to marry their rapers.
God exists, therefore we should force women to marry the man who raped them (what are you supposed to do about gang rapes, though? Is it the first man who penetrated, or the last man to ejaculate, or how?)

That tends to be the structure of the Old Hebrew texts, anyway. God exists without question, from this they derive a moral set.

So they could be wrong on the conclusion, but that says nothing of their major premise.
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The major premise necessarily involves all the attributes, qualities, attitudes & actions of the god & all its "morals", claims, commandments & pronouncements.
 
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