Amnesty accuses Israel of 'serious rights abuses!

[Ganymede]

Israeli soldiers and Jewish settlers committed "serious human rights abuses" against the Palestinians in 2006, mostly with impunity, Amnesty International said in its annual report issued Wednesday. It also said civilians bore the brunt of rising violence last year between Israelis and Palestinians that saw a three-fold jump in Palestinians killed, although the number of Israelis killed fell by half.

During the 34-day Lebanon conflict last summer "both Hezbollah and Israel committed serious violations of international humanitarian law, including war crimes," said the report.

"In particular Israeli forces carried out indiscriminate and disproportionate attacks on a large scale."

"Israeli forces also appear to have carried out direct attacks on civilian infrastructure intended to inflict a form of collective punishment on Lebanon's people."

Meanwhile "Hezbollah's rocket attacks on northern Israel amounted to deliberate attacks on civilians and civilian objects, as well as indiscriminate attacks.

"Its attacks also violated other rules of international humanitarian law, including the prohibition on reprisal attacks on the civilian population."

In the Palestinian territories, Israeli air and artillery strikes killed some 650 people, half of them unarmed civilians and including some 120 children, "a three-fold increase compared with 2005."

Much of the killing occurred in the Gaza Strip during an Israeli offensive launched after militants there seized a soldier in a deadly cross-border raid in late June.

Palestinian militant groups killed 21 Israeli civilians, including one child, half the figure of the previous year and the lowest since the intifada flared in September 2000.

But rockets fired by Palestinian militants from Gaza into Israel saw a "significant increase" compared with the previous year and killed two civilians.

The number of attacks on Palestinians by Israeli settlers in the occupied West Bank decreased after a supreme court ruling ordering the army and police to protect farmers working their land, but several more such attacks were carried out nonetheless.

"Israeli soldiers and settlers committed serious human rights abuses, including unlawful killings, against Palestinians, mostly with impunity," said the Amnesty report.

The Israeli justice system continued to show wide discrepancies, with harsh responses against Palestinians suspected of attacks on Israelis, and lenient or no measures against Israeli soldiers and settlers accused of unlawful killings and abuse of Palestinians.

"Military blockades and increased restrictions imposed by Israel on the movement of Palestinians and the confiscation by Israel of Palestinian custom duties caused a significant deterioration in living conditions for Palestinian inhabitants of the occupied territories, with poverty, food aid dependency, health problems and unemployment reaching crisis levels."

Israel began withholding custom duties collected on behalf of the Palestinian Authority after Hamas, which it considers a terror group, came to power.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=070523114347.wrsivmo1&show_article=1

Speechless!!

 

[Wisconsin Crippler]

Anybody notice the lack of outcry against the Lebanese for launching artillery strikes into refugee camps of Palesitnians, in an effort to root out terrorists?? I guess when its arabs killing each other, its of no interest.

But if the Israelis do it, the UN scrambles all night to come up with tough language denouncing Israel.

When Israel launches a strike against terrorists, they have no choice but to hit civilian infrastructure, as that is where there enemy resides. The terrorist could choose to fight the military of Israel, but they choose to specifically attack civilian areas, without IDF forces being present. Think about that for a bit.....

 

[Ganymede]

Anybody notice the lack of outcry against the Lebanese for launching artillery strikes into refugee camps of Palesitnians, in an effort to root out terrorists?? I guess when its arabs killing each other, its of no interest.

But if the Israelis do it, the UN scrambles all night to come up with tough language denouncing Israel.

When Israel launches a strike against terrorists, they have no choice but to hit civilian infrastructure, as that is where there enemy resides. The terrorist could choose to fight the military of Israel, but they choose to specifically attack civilian areas, without IDF forces being present. Think about that for a bit.....

There's other ways to catch terrorists. You don't have to carpet bomb civilian towns. They chose to use Airstrikes, and Weapons of Mass destruction, over sending commando's in to arrest those directly responsible. Lebannon is sending in Commando's into the refugee camps to punish those DIRECTLY responsible. Notice how they didn't send in their Jets, or Gunships to collectively punish the Palestinians.

 

[Baron Max]

Lebannon is sending in Commando's into the refugee camps to punish those DIRECTLY responsible. Notice how they didn't send in their Jets, or Gunships to collectively punish the Palestinians.

Huh? The Lebanese army is using artillery and mortar shelling to destroy most of the refugee camps ....where have you been? What have you been reading? Whatever it is, it's bullshit, ....plain bullshit.

Baron Max

 

[Norsefire]

Well the whole existence of the terrorists is because of Israel anyway, it all leads back to it to take the blame.


Anyway, Israel also attacked a UN post during the conflict. Along with everything, there is no way it could've been an accident. Air strikes? in a civilian-infested area? madness. Artillery? that even more

The 'terrorists' use civilian hideouts for protection, therefore unless you want to kill one terrorist and fifty civilians, weapons of mass destruction should not be used. If the Syrian army was capable of defeating Israels, I'm sure it would not call an artillery barriage on a civilian center in Israel (the real terrorist) UNLESS ITS FOR SEVERE REASONs.

And of course, you jew lovers will bash me. No matter, the innocent arabs AND israelis that died will not have died in vain.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Ganymede

There's other ways to catch terrorists. You don't have to carpet bomb civilian towns. They chose to use Airstrikes, and Weapons of Mass destruction, over sending commando's in to arrest those directly responsible. Lebannon is sending in Commando's into the refugee camps to punish those DIRECTLY responsible. Notice how they didn't send in their Jets, or Gunships to collectively punish the Palestinians.

Yes you need to read the news reports, the Lebanonise Army sure as the hell isn't using Commandos to take out the, Fatah Islam, by some quirk of law they aren't allowed into the camps, so they are using Tanks with their main guns, artillery, and APC with their heavy machine guns to destroy any building suspected of holding Fatah Islam terrorist.


NPR : Lebanon Army Steps Up Attack on Militants
... up an artillery attack Monday on a crowded Palestinian refugee camp thought ... Palestinian refugee camp has been battling Lebanon Army thanks very much ...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10292649&ft=1&f=1001

By law, Lebanese authorities are forbidden from entering the camps.

NPR : Lebanon Army Steps Up Attack on Militants
... up an artillery attack Monday on a crowded Palestinian refugee camp thought ... Palestinian refugee camp has been battling Lebanon Army thanks very much ...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10292649&ft=1&f=1001

Morning Edition, May 21, 2007 · Lebanese soldiers stepped up an artillery attack Monday on a crowded Palestinian refugee camp thought to house militants linked to al-Qaida, killing at least five civilians.
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The death toll remained uncertain as hundreds of Lebanese army troops, backed by tanks and armored personnel carriers, surrounded the camp. The tanks opened fire and mortar fire was returned from inside the camp.
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Ahmed Methqal, a Muslim cleric in the camp, told al-Jazeera television by phone that sniper fire had confined the camp's approximately 30,000 residents to their houses and that five civilians had been killed.

"They are targeting buildings, with people in them," he said. "What's the guilt of children, women and the elderly?"
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An army officer at the frontline, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, said troops directed concentrated fire at buildings known to house militants.

"Everything we know that they were present in has been targeted," he told the AP.

 

[spidergoat]

I think terrorism is just a common tactic in the middle east, if they weren't bombing Israel, they would be fighting one another.

 

[Baron Max]

I think terrorism is just a common tactic in the middle east, if they weren't bombing Israel, they would be fighting one another.

Huh? Odd that you say that, Spider, .....'cause the ARE fignting one another, every day, every week, every year! As you surely can see from news reports, the terrorists fight both, and everyone else, too.

Baron Max

 

[spidergoat]

So true. Why is that?




(religion)

 

[Baron Max]

So true. Why is that? (religion)

No, I don't think it's religion, I think it's culture. Now before you complain to me, ...yes, I know that religion is a part of culture. But look, for example, at the Palestinians using Mickey Mouse on the tv to teach little kids to hate the Israelis ...that's not religion, that's culture. See what I mean?

And also, let's not forget, the Arab and the Muslim cultures have always held personal vengeance as a high form of honor and self-worth. "Vengeance is mine," Sayeth the Muslims, is not far very from wrong.

Baron Max

 

[Ganymede]

Ganymede



Yes you need to read the news reports, the Lebanonise Army sure as the hell isn't using Commandos to take out the, Fatah Islam, by some quirk of law they aren't allowed into the camps, so they are using Tanks with their main guns, artillery, and APC with their heavy machine guns to destroy any building suspected of holding Fatah Islam terrorist.


NPR : Lebanon Army Steps Up Attack on Militants
... up an artillery attack Monday on a crowded Palestinian refugee camp thought ... Palestinian refugee camp has been battling Lebanon Army thanks very much ...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10292649&ft=1&f=1001




NPR : Lebanon Army Steps Up Attack on Militants
... up an artillery attack Monday on a crowded Palestinian refugee camp thought ... Palestinian refugee camp has been battling Lebanon Army thanks very much ...
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10292649&ft=1&f=1001

Morning Edition, May 21, 2007 · Lebanese soldiers stepped up an artillery attack Monday on a crowded Palestinian refugee camp thought to house militants linked to al-Qaida, killing at least five civilians.
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The death toll remained uncertain as hundreds of Lebanese army troops, backed by tanks and armored personnel carriers, surrounded the camp. The tanks opened fire and mortar fire was returned from inside the camp.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ahmed Methqal, a Muslim cleric in the camp, told al-Jazeera television by phone that sniper fire had confined the camp's approximately 30,000 residents to their houses and that five civilians had been killed.

"They are targeting buildings, with people in them," he said. "What's the guilt of children, women and the elderly?"
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
An army officer at the frontline, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media, said troops directed concentrated fire at buildings known to house militants.

"Everything we know that they were present in has been targeted," he told the AP.

I stand corrected. I didn't know Israel would let Lebbanon cross the borders with Tanks and Artillery. And attack civilians in their country. I still Blame Israel. Looks like they can't control their borders either.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Norsefire

Well the whole existence of the terrorists is because of Israel anyway, it all leads back to it to take the blame.

Anyway, Israel also attacked a UN post during the conflict. Along with everything, there is no way it could've been an accident. Air strikes? in a civilian-infested area? madness. Artillery? that even more

The 'terrorists' use civilian hideouts for protection, therefore unless you want to kill one terrorist and fifty civilians, weapons of mass destruction should not be used. If the Syrian army was capable of defeating Israelis, I'm sure it would not call an artillery barrage on a civilian center in Israel (the real terrorist) UNLESS ITS FOR SEVERE REASONs.

And of course, you jew lovers will bash me. No matter, the innocent arabs AND israelis that died will not have died in vain.

Do you know what the hell your talking about? Lets see the definition of Weapons of Mass Destruction, and if the definition fits your description?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_mass_destruction

Weapon of mass destruction (WMD) is a term used to describe a massive weapon with the capacity to indiscriminately kill or incapacitate. The phrase broadly encompasses several areas of weapon synthesis, including nuclear, biological, chemical (NBC) and, increasingly, radiological weapons.

Following the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and progressing through the Cold War, the term came to refer more to non-conventional weapons.

Nothing that you show matches this definition.

Anyway, Israel also attacked a UN post during the conflict

And what does this have to do with anything?

No the Israelis didn't attack the U.N. Monitoring Station, they attacked Hezbulla Terrorist operating in close proximity to the U.N. Post, and the post was hit as collateral damage, and as usual the Terrorist were trying to gain advantage by hiding behind those not involved in the conflict.

The 'terrorists' use civilian hideouts for protection, therefore unless you want to kill one terrorist and fifty civilians,

And under the Laws of War, and the Geneva Convention, it is the terrorist who are responsible for not operating or carrying out operations in such a manner that civilians are endangered, the LoW, and the GC allow for the Self Defense of Military Personnel under attack that they don't have to worry about civilians from whose midst the terrorist enemy is operating from, it is the Terrorist responsibility not to endanger the civilians with their operations.

What about the accusations of armed Palestinians using civilians as cover?
Using human shields is now considered a war crime. The use of civilians to shelter a combatant makes them the inadvertent target of retaliation. This is also covered in Article 51, paragraph 7 of Protocol I.

7. The presence or movements of the civilian population or individual civilians shall not be used to render certain points or areas immune from military operations, in particular in attempts to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield, favour or impede military operations. The Parties to the conflict shall not direct the movement of the civilian population or individual civilians in order to attempt to shield military objectives from attacks or to shield military operations. [/QUOTE

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Ganymede

Why did you delete this from my quote?

By law, Lebanese authorities are forbidden from entering the camps.

And what the hell are you babbling about?

I stand corrected. I didn't know Israel would let Lebbanon cross the borders with Tanks and Artillery. And attack civilians in their country. I still Blame Israel. Looks like they can't control their borders either.

All the action is taking place in Lebanon, at the NAHR AL BARED, refugee camp, outside of Tripoli, can you read a news article?, look at a map? from what I see in your reply it's no wonder that you don't know squat about what is going on in the world.

 

[Ganymede]

Ganymede

Why did you delete this from my quote?



And what the hell are you babbling about?



All the action is taking place in Lebanon, at the NAHR AL BARED, refugee camp, outside of Tripoli, can you read a news article?, look at a map? from what I see in your reply it's no wonder that you don't know squat about what is going on in the world.

I thought we were talking about Israel. Now we're talking about Lebannon?

Please refrain from commenting if you're going to drag other countries into this argument. Another country doesn't have shit to do with the Human Rights Abuses in Israel. And NO I didn't read your deceptive drivel.

 

[Ganymede]

Hey Buffalo! Why don't you go back to spreading your Dis-information. Like this bullshit here!

Buffalo Roam
Registered Senior User (4,564 posts)
06-21-06, 06:52 PM #1

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[spidergoat]

No, I don't think it's religion, I think it's culture. Now before you complain to me, ...yes, I know that religion is a part of culture. But look, for example, at the Palestinians using Mickey Mouse on the tv to teach little kids to hate the Israelis ...that's not religion, that's culture. See what I mean?

And also, let's not forget, the Arab and the Muslim cultures have always held personal vengeance as a high form of honor and self-worth. "Vengeance is mine," Sayeth the Muslims, is not far very from wrong.

Baron Max

They hate the Israelis due to religion. Israeli Jews distinguish themselves by religion. If not for this fact, none of this would have happened.

 

[DiamondHearts]

I think terrorism is just a common tactic in the middle east, if they weren't bombing Israel, they would be fighting one another.

They hate the Israelis due to religion. Israeli Jews distinguish themselves by religion. If not for this fact, none of this would have happened.

I don't know how you became a moderator. As a moderator shouldn't you distance yourself from such ridiculous views.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Ganymede

I thought we were talking about Israel. Now we're talking about Lebannon?

Please refrain from commenting if you're going to drag other countries into this argument. Another country doesn't have shit to do with the Human Rights Abuses in Israel. And NO I didn't read your deceptive drivel.

Ganymede , you have a very short memory----

There's other ways to catch terrorists. You don't have to carpet bomb civilian towns. They chose to use Airstrikes, and Weapons of Mass destruction, over sending commando's in to arrest those directly responsible.

Lebannon is sending in Commando's into the refugee camps to punish those DIRECTLY responsible. Notice how they didn't send in their Jets, or Gunships to collectively punish the Palestinians.

Lebanon isn't sending Commandos into the Nahr al Bared refugee camp they are attacking with tanks and artillery, and the Palestinians are caught in the cross fire, so it was you who interjected Lebanon, and didn't look to see what really was happening at Nahr al Bared camp.

As for Israel they are doing nothing different than Lebanon, they are conducting military operations against military target, that chose to hid among the civilian population, for the propaganda, and the sad fact is that the Palestinians gather around the fighters just to become martyrs and provide propaganda, The Geneva Convention is still quite clear on who is responsible for these civilian causalities, it is covered in Article 51, paragraph 7 of Protocol I, and it is incumbent on the Fatah and Hamas fighters to conduct their operations in a manner that doesn't endanger the civilian population, their own and the Israeli, suicide bombing of civilians is a violation of the Geneva Convention, and the Palestinians have been doing this for years. The Israelis when they launch a attack are going after a military target, there isn't any carpet bombing going on ( look at the pictures of any German city after WWII and you will see the results of mass bomber attacks, and nothing in the Gaza or West Bank come close) the Israelis hit a specific target that has placed themselves in the heart of the civilian population to use them as shields and for propaganda, for gullible people like you to feel sorry for them.

 

[Buffalo Roam]

Ganymede

Buffalo Roam
Registered Senior User (4,564 posts)
06-21-06, 06:52 PM #1

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FOXNews.com - Sarin, Mustard Gas Discovered Separately in Iraq ... [New Window]
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Have you checked out this information? These were some of the chemicals that were found in the ammunition storage facility of Saddam, they do make a very effective WMD in the nerve agent class.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_Disaster

HIST ORY
by Iraq. Iraq’s chemical weapons killed more than 25000. Iranians during this conflict. ... reacted with the methyl isocyanate, resulting in the release of ...
http://www.hhs.gov/emergency/mediaguide/PDF/12.pdf

Chemical terrorism - an introduction - Citizendium
One of the stated concerns leading to the 2003 invasion of Iraq was the possibility ... A substance as dangerous as methyl isocyanate should normally be ...
http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Chemical_terrorism

 

[Zakariya04]

hello Buffalo

I hope all is going good with you.

Just one thing there is one slighty difference in the lebanonese situation and that of the israeli situation in the occupied west bank.

I'll let you guess what that is???

~~~~~~~~~~~
take it ez
zak

PS ; and it is not the fact that most israelis are jews.