American CONTRACTOR beheaded today.....+3

some teachers around the country brought the video tape of bergs execution that was broadcast over ther internet or pictures of his beheading with phrases ranging around this: " and this is what you get for a war thats unsupported "... Some of them will hopefully be fired as well
 
Greco said:
I'm afraid there's no peacefull solution in Iraq, US should pull its troops out and allow the Iraqis to settle their bussiness. The longer US stays there the more troops will be killed for NOTHING.
Click to expand...

Exactly. Since no WMDs have been found and the Saddam regime has been terminated I see no point why U.S led forces are still in Iraq. In fact, by continuing to stay in Iraq they are depriving normal Iraqi citizens the "freedom" of living without fear from an ongoing war.
 
Interesting points about the conspiracy theory. Al-kaboni should be able to answer how good their arabic was. I kinda noticed some suspicious body language too. I interepreted it as nervousness or hesitancy.
 
Sevenblu I noticed it wasn't all black and white either. I lost the first link I read but you touched on most the points in it. He seemed to be an american prisoner first and than somehow ended-up in the hands of those hooded men. He cooresponded briefly with his father while in american detention that artilce siad. Here is another artilce that I found that goes over odd stuff about this particular incident.

http://www.progressivetrail.org/articles/040513Nimmo.shtml

the orange suit is very interesting bucause it is like it states a prision uniform worn by american pows not Iraq prisioners. I did not see the video tape and cannot comment on it at all..but after reading this article and the first one that I am kicking myself for losing.....I am perplexed by the whole incident....I feel so deeply for Nick and his family....whatever was going on with him in Iraq......I am sure he didn't deserve the death he recieved.....I feel a lot of sadness for his famliy too.
 
invert_nexus said:
The coalition troops bend over backwards to lessen civilian casualties.
Click to expand...

I disagree. The coalition is some 99% US all things considered, so I just say US. I think thousands of lives could have been fairly easily spared. The first action other than securing the oil fields was to lob cruise missiles at 2 neighborhoods, killing hundreds while they slept, for the maybe 1 in ten thousand chance that Saddam was standing near the location where his henchman used his satellite phone fifteen minutes before. Some of those people likely died a horrible death from dehydration under the rubble, among other painful ways to die. They also did not get a chance to see their killer or make peace with their fate. So the Berg thing is almost nothing compared to what the US has done and continues to do, which also includes torturing people until they died, shooting them for asking for tea, and continuing to fire willy-nilly into neighborhoods. That doesn't mean I condone what happened to Berg. I just think it's a waste to harp on that when by far the worse killer is the US.
 
from sevenblu


I have also read other holes in this story that I am having trouble filling. There are arguements that the men in the video show no emotion (not even anger) and that they speak poor Arabic (I wouldn't know though). Also that the room Berg is in looks like a prison cell in Abu Ghraib... that the walls are the same color and that Nick Berg is sitting in one of the white chairs seen in the abuse pictures.
Click to expand...

Poor Arabic means only onething: that they are came from Afghani Taleban Troops!!

Also this means :

Americans enemies are not Iraqi People , but Taleban and Al-Qaeeda!!!

That's my thought, maybe wrong on not!!!

But when I heard him (the person who talks) many words from him I can't understand.
 
If you read the translation carefully, you will see those lines:

And another message for the treacherous stooge, Perveez Musharraf, then we say to him: We are in the highest of desires, awaiting your soldiers. For by Allah, we will seek them before the Americans, and will avenge for the blood of our brothers in Waana and other than it.
Click to expand...

Perveez Musharraf = Pakistan President

And, that's an evidence, too!!!
 
I agree. Completely forgot about Afghans/Pakistanis. Could you detect a noticable accent? Would you recognize it if you did?
 
--You can recognize them easly, As they hate Pakistan President so much!!

-- So, I think after 9/11 accident and America destroyed Taleban (Afghani), so they think there is unfinished bussiness between Taleban And US. So, they went to Iraq to do their duties (As they think)!!

-Also, please note: many Afghani doesn't speak fluent Arabic!!
 
Berg, Al Qaeda linked before

Berg, Al Qaeda linked before !!! :bugeye:

By JAMES GORDON MEEK in Washington
and TRACY CONNOR in New York
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS

In a bizarre coincidence, Nick Berg crossed paths with Al Qaeda years before its henchmen beheaded him, when his E-mail and password wound up in the hands of 9/11 suspect Zacarias Moussaoui.
It happened in 1999, when Berg was at the University of Oklahoma and Moussaoui was enrolled at a nearby flight school, allegedly training to be an Al Qaeda hijacker.

After Moussaoui came under scrutiny in the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks, the FBI discovered he had Berg's university E-mail password.

"In 2002, the FBI was following millions of leads in the wake of 9/11, and one led to Mr. Berg," said a senior Justice Department official.

Read the rest here:

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/193331p-166984c.html

Was he double agent ????
 
The media shows what is really happening. Everyone was so shockes and suprised when they showed tortures and killings on the TV. I knew that that was happening before it aired on TV. It is part of war.
 
"There is no excuse for beheading or killing an innocent civilian. Were these people to scared to go after a man who had a chance to defend himself? Pathetic and shows these people up for what they are, savages."

especially in Afghanistan, the Americans barely ever left the safety of their tanks and helicopters, now that is pathetic


"But just to challenge you on your pseudo-objective stance; 3 000 000 sharks have died during project iraqi freedom, 8000 iraqi citizens, which do you think is worse?"

shit, lets get greenpeace onto em, thats pretty crappy
 
I agree that they shouldn't have done it. we watched the beheading video at school. Still, innocent people will always be killed in war. THe helicopter shootings were brutal. Many Iraq and Afganistan civilians were killed. It's a trade-off.
 
99% of the anti allied dissidents are from external sources; they are not even Iraqi
Click to expand...
Should I hold my breath while you provide evidence of this assertion devil?

I guess not
Dee cee
 
tiassa said:
Does this mean, then, that we have evidence of a division 'twixt, say, al Qaeda and the average Muslim? As we in the West cry out for condemnation by Islamic scholars, these murderers lament ... what?

Are they really complaining to God that the scholars aren't militant enough?
Click to expand...

no he's complaing that why arent the scholars doing anything as 1,000,000 kids die in Iraq, 500,000 massaacred by serbs, 5,000,000 made into refugees by Israelis, 100,000 dead by Israeli and coalition forces, 500,000 maimed by isralies, and on and on and on forverer..............................
 
no he's complaing that why arent the scholars doing anything as 1,000,000 kids die in Iraq, 500,000 massaacred by serbs, 5,000,000 made into refugees by Israelis, 100,000 dead by Israeli and coalition forces, 500,000 maimed by isralies, and on and on and on forverer
Click to expand...
Welcome, John.

What kind of response, then, do you think the scholars ought to present? That is, what kind of response do you think would satisfy the lament of these terrorists?
 
zanket said:
I disagree. The coalition is some 99% US all things considered, so I just say US. I think thousands of lives could have been fairly easily spared. The first action other than securing the oil fields was to lob cruise missiles at 2 neighborhoods, killing hundreds while they slept, for the maybe 1 in ten thousand chance that Saddam was standing near the location where his henchman used his satellite phone fifteen minutes before. Some of those people likely died a horrible death from dehydration under the rubble, among other painful ways to die. They also did not get a chance to see their killer or make peace with their fate. So the Berg thing is almost nothing compared to what the US has done and continues to do, which also includes torturing people until they died, shooting them for asking for tea, and continuing to fire willy-nilly into neighborhoods. That doesn't mean I condone what happened to Berg. I just think it's a waste to harp on that when by far the worse killer is the US.
Click to expand...
Holy shit, collateral damage! My, what an enlightening post! You'd almost think there was an actual war going on! If you can't discriminate the difference in context of the two than you're abysmally deluded.

There are few things more annoying than a categorically unqualified internet nerd conducting a distant proxy war from his computer chair.
 
An actual offensive war, Stokes. And actual itchy trigger fingers causing mass death that could easily have been avoided. The attitude that so many people have, that the US can kill anybody it wants as long as it puts the killing under the label “war,” is tiring to me. But I'm talking to a wall here, now aren't I?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top