Amazon to use drones for delivery services

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Amazon has revealed more details about its forthcoming drone-based delivery system called Amazon Prime Air. These Drones will be able to carry 5lb packages over 10 miles to their customers within 30 minutes of them ordering it online at Amazon.com.
Being asked about drone haters with shotguns, people at Amazon aren't worried, believing that these Prime Air drones will be as normal as seeing a delivery truck driving down the street someday.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...rry-5lb-packages-over-10-miles-in-30-minutes/
 
Amazon has revealed more details about its forthcoming drone-based delivery system called Amazon Prime Air. These Drones will be able to carry 5lb packages over 10 miles to their customers within 30 minutes of them ordering it online at Amazon.com.
Being asked about drone haters with shotguns, people at Amazon aren't worried, believing that these Prime Air drones will be as normal as seeing a delivery truck driving down the street someday.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...rry-5lb-packages-over-10-miles-in-30-minutes/

Bloody awful idea. They are noisy and I bet they will crash or fall out of the sky and brain people. Let's hope the local authorities refuse permission.
 
Now if they were to deliver pizza maybe.
This could happen. :D

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Bloody awful idea. They are noisy and I bet they will crash or fall out of the sky and brain people. Let's hope the local authorities refuse permission.

Same thinking here. I'd rather like to see a pneumatic delivery/letter shoot system built in larger cities, than drones flying always and everywhere.
 
Quieter than the airplanes that Fedex currently uses.

Again, so do airplanes. Except airplanes fall out of the sky and kill people.

Well, not really. I seriously do not believe anything like the same standards will be applied to Amazon drones as apply to civil airliners. And regarding noise, nobody is suggesting these drones will replace aircraft. So where I live (close to the approach flight path to London Heathrow) I will have the pleasure of BOTH aircraft noise AND these sodding drones buzzing past my bedroom window, on their way to drop pizzas on Plasma's garage.
 
Amazon going to drones is going to hurt package delivery companies like UPS and Fedex. A large amount of their business currently comes from Amazon. Losing Amazon as a customer will cause package delivery companies to raise their rates at the very least. And most other online retailers won't have drones, so they will find themselves at an even larger competitive disadvantage than they are now.

As an Amazon customer, I also have concerns about how reliable this will be. Will my purchase be damaged? Will it even get to me? Hopefully we will still have an option to choose alternative shipping methods. (Yeah, I know, it will cost me.) I don't expect to choose drones until the process is perfected.
 
Amazon going to drones is going to hurt package delivery companies like UPS and Fedex. A large amount of their business currently comes from Amazon. Losing Amazon as a customer will cause package delivery companies to raise their rates at the very least. And most other online retailers won't have drones, so they will find themselves at an even larger competitive disadvantage than they are now.

As an Amazon customer, I also have concerns about how reliable this will be. Will my purchase be damaged? Will it even get to me? Hopefully we will still have an option to choose alternative shipping methods. (Yeah, I know, it will cost me.) I don't expect to choose drones until the process is perfected.

I have read in the financial press that Amazon is rethinking what its business really is, and that it seems to be coming to the conclusion that what it excels at is final stage delivery to individual consumers.

And I think that is right. It never fails to amaze me how crap many delivery companies are, from a householder's point of view. We even have one in the UK, called Parcelforce, that makes 2 attempts to deliver and then sends a card saying you have to collect the item yourself from their depot, 5 miles away, across the most congested part of the capital! In other words a round trip, for you the customer, of at least an hour. That really is "producer mentality". Amazon, by contrast has put real effort into making the process work. These locker systems they have in local stores are great. You don't need to wait in the house, but can pick the item up from the locker as you pass, at a time that suits you when you do your shopping. Other store chains do the same, using their high street outlets as collection points rather than risking the unreliability of a handover at the front doorstep.

So yes I think UPS and Fedex need to decide, rapidly, whether they are in the business of final stage delivery to households, or just to businesses in office hours and other easier delivery targets.

But I rather hope this drone thing is a gimmick to draw attention to Amazon's seriousness of purpose, rather a real project. I think it will be a bridge too far, even for them.
 
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I have read in the financial press that Amazon is rethinking what its business really is, and that it seems to be coming to the conclusion that what it excels at is final stage delivery to individual consumers.

I think that I heard somewhere that Amazon is leasing large cargo aircraft and will be competing with the package delivery companies with long-haul shipping too. I don't know how practical that is. Running an airline, even a cargo airline, is hugely complex. Flying and servicing the aircraft, government aviation regulations up the butt. It would make more sense to hire that out to a specialist air transportation company.

And I think that is right. It never fails to amaze me how crap many delivery companies are, from a householder's point of view.

Here in California, UPS and Fedex are very good. So is the US Postal Service, which Amazon uses for small packages like individual books. Of course I live in the suburbs and if I'm not home, they leave the package at my door, which isn't visible from the street. I've never had anything stolen, though people have been arrested around here for prowling the neighborhoods stealing newly-delivered packages off door steps.

The question is, how would a drone improve on that? How will a drone determine if you are home and hand you your package if you are? It's just going to drop a package on the door step, perhaps violently and in a more exposed location that's easier for the drone to reach.

I'm sure this is a much bigger problem for big city residents than for suburbanites like me. So... how does a drone propose to deliver packages to individuals who live in big-city apartment buildings?

Amazon, by contrast has put real effort into makes the process work. These locker systems they have in local stores are great. You don't need to wait in the house, but can pick the item up from the locker as you pass, at a time that suits you when you do your shopping. Other store chains do the same, using their high street outlets as collection points rather than risking the unreliability of a handover at the front doorstep.

Yeah, we have that here in Silicon Valley too. You can order something online from a chain's website and have them deliver it to their store nearest you so that you can pick it up in person.

So yes I think UPS and Fedex need to decide, rapidly, whether they are in the business of final stage delivery to households, or just to businesses in office hours and other easier delivery targets.

The thing is, will Amazon really be able to improve on what UPS and Fedex are currently doing? Or will they just force a horde of delivery drivers out of their jobs with their drones? (There goes another of the dwindling number of decent-paying jobs for males with no university education.) And once Amazon is the dominant delivery service, online shoppers will be increasingly locked into making all their purchases from Amazon.

But I rather hope this drone thing is a gimmick to draw attention to Amazon's seriousness of purpose, rather a real project. I think it will be a bridge too far, even for them.

It doesn't sound practical to me.
 
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Same thinking here. I'd rather like to see a pneumatic delivery/letter shoot system built in larger cities, than drones flying always and everywhere.
We did that in the last decades of the 19th century. It was a fantastic technology. The problems came when industrial technology reached its peak and more buildings of larger size were built. At minimum this required connecting new pneumatic tubes to the existing network, and at worst tearing them out to make room for the foundations of new buildings. Too much down-time! By the time automobiles and trucks became affordable and the roads had been turned into highways (with no children playing in them, which was a major cause of infant mortality in the 1900s and 1910s), pneumatic systems were slowly becoming obsolescent and very few new installations were performed. A few large companies kept theirs going with reasonable maintenance costs for a while after WWII, but IIRC, today there are only a handful in operation on the entire planet.
Except airplanes fall out of the sky and kill people.
Despite weather, terrorism, Russian separatists in the Ukraine, and German privacy laws prohibiting psychiatrists from divulging the mental health of pilots, airplanes continue to be the safest mode of transportation for the passengers, the pilots and the people beneath them on the ground. There were only nine fatal airline accidents worldwide in all of 2013. Compare that to the thirty thousand who are killed in road accidents every year, just in the USA. That's roughly the same number who are killed by guns!

The average American has a probability of about 1.3% that the cause of his death will be a road accident. The risk of dying in an airplane accident is so small that the leading zeroes would probably run off the edge of your screen.
 
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Well, not really. I seriously do not believe anything like the same standards will be applied to Amazon drones as apply to civil airliners.
I was thinking more of private aircraft, which fly over everyone's heads (and occasionally crash) but are accepted as a reasonable risk. Their training/maintenance standards are much lower than part 135 or part 121 operations (air taxi and commercial aviation.)

Drones will likely not be built to part-91 standards (since there is no pilot to die in a crash) but will also not have a pilot, and the #1 cause of general aviation crashes is pilot error. Thus it's likely a wash in terms of overall reliability.
And regarding noise, nobody is suggesting these drones will replace aircraft. So where I live (close to the approach flight path to London Heathrow) I will have the pleasure of BOTH aircraft noise AND these sodding drones buzzing past my bedroom window, on their way to drop pizzas on Plasma's garage.
Yep. But you're going to hear the drone, or the motorbike, or the delivery van anyway, droning past your bedroom window. Delivery isn't going away, the mode is just changing.
 
Despite weather, terrorism, Russian separatists in the Ukraine, and German privacy laws prohibiting psychiatrists from divulging the mental health of pilots, airplanes continue to be the safest mode of transportation for the passengers, the pilots and the people beneath them on the ground.
Only true for commercial aviation. For private aviation the record is considerably worse; a general aviation pilot is 19 times more likely to die flying than he is driving. (And those airplanes, of course, are in the air above our heads too.)
 
I was thinking more of private aircraft, which fly over everyone's heads (and occasionally crash) but are accepted as a reasonable risk. Their training/maintenance standards are much lower than part 135 or part 121 operations (air taxi and commercial aviation.)

Drones will likely not be built to part-91 standards (since there is no pilot to die in a crash) but will also not have a pilot, and the #1 cause of general aviation crashes is pilot error. Thus it's likely a wash in terms of overall reliability.

Yep. But you're going to hear the drone, or the motorbike, or the delivery van anyway, droning past your bedroom window. Delivery isn't going away, the mode is just changing.

Suppose that's right. But I reckon these things will crash due to silly things like battery failure, or wind vortices around tall buildings, or being attacked by cats, or flying into TV aerials....... Maybe I'm worrying about nothing. Anyway, we'll see.
 
Suppose that's right. But I reckon these things will crash due to silly things like battery failure, or wind vortices around tall buildings, or being attacked by cats, or flying into TV aerials....... Maybe I'm worrying about nothing. Anyway, we'll see.
Bird strike or drones colliding into each other.
I wonder, if in the future, we would be given the option to have something drone delivered, or send your own drone to collect?
 
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