Alternative form of Communism!

PolitikalOverthrow

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Though it has failed in the past, Communism is the correct form of government. When it is not corrupted by foul, unworthy induviduals, Communism will be made to work! People like Stalin, Mao, and Fidel Castro have made the very idea of communism hated by their terrible acts of violence and corruption. Stalin murders millions of Jews and other peoples. Mao conqueres China during his civil war and then goes on to basicly destroy the nation's economy. Castro allows his nation to be manipulated by the Soviet Union and other major forces and almost ends up being the cause of World War III.
The basis of Communism is that all people are created equally and one should not be able to look down upon the other, whether it be with pity or with scorn. Communism would be the perfect government for the perfect society.
I am proposing a new breed of Communism, which I would like to call Parliamentary Communism. The people elect their representatives, the Parliament, who then go on to elect a member of their body to be the head of state, the Prime Minister. The Parliament decides what laws should pass and which ones should not, though if the Prime Minister wants a law passed that Parliament does not, he can decide to pass it. The Parliament has the final say, though, because if 2/3 of them unite to disband that law, the law will be trashed. There will be no "states" or "provinces". All of the nation will be united under one government. The Parliamentary Representative from that area will act as the local judge to settle civil matters in that area of the nation in the half of the year that he is not in congress.
The economy works like this: A person decides what job they want, and they go on a list of people who want that job also. The most qualified ones will get the job, and the others will be assigned to another job that the community needs. Everyone will report their income to their government, who will then send along people to collect it. The money will then be distributed back evenly amongst the population. This will ensure that everyone gets what they need. Doctors will make as much as maids, lawyers will make as much as their paralegals. You may be thinking right about now that people would have no incentive to work because they know they will make as much money as everyone else. But there is a solution to that. 20% of the money that is collected by the government will be kept and then distributed in appropriate amounts to people who went beyond what they were supposed to do. People who worked hard and tried their best at their job.


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------>With a fair and kind leader this government would work very well!
 
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But are humans capable of being fair and kind in the eyes of other humans? no matter how fair you think you are some one else will decide the you are not being fair and impartial, and you still need some one to decide how thing are divided and that then give them power and responsability for wich they then decide that they deserve more, and then they give more to people to support their decissions, and soon you have class and discrimination. There is one small problem with humans, we all have some greed, jealousy and envy the gifts of Pandoras Box.
 
no matter how fair you think you are some one else will decide the you are not being fair and impartial

That's where we bring into play those Stalinesque acts and put a bullet to their whining heads, lol, kidding.

- N
 
My sarcasm meter is jumping. Now admittedly it probably needs a service, but I sincerely doubt that anyone who says
Communism is the correct form of government

and
Communism will be made to work

is actually a communist.
*pause*
Then I read the rest of the screed. The polticial set up is somewhat like we hav e in the UK, i.e. totally inadequate if you have any desires for actual democracy. If the prime minister can pass laws even when the parliament disagrees, what is the point of even having the parliament? See the USA and its current problems with the PResident assuming total autonomy, especially with regards to domestic surveillance of US citizens.

Plus, you have not adequately defined the gvt. Whilst a gvt may well be a necessary evil on the way to actual commmunism, to have somethihg liek a gvt at the end of it is, well, not really communist.
 
the parliament has the last say and can overpower the prime minister if 2/3 of them agree on the issue

That is why we have the parliament. If the prime minister is corrupt, they would also have the power to replace him. Also the prime minister cannot pass laws on his own, he must also have 20 signatures from the parliament and the law must have been introduced into parliament first.
 
The basis of Communism is that all people are created equally and one should not be able to look down upon the other...
One shouldn't have to pay tuition for the trained inability to recognize the logical fallacy.
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Pity causes charity, and charity can either ruin or aid. Ruin because one might not learn to take care of themselves and come to rely on the charity. Aid if the charity helps them get their lives on track.
Scorn causes hatred. All that needs to be said.
It is better if everyone is equal in social status.
 
PolitikalOverthrow said:
Pity causes charity, and charity can either ruin or aid. Ruin because one might not learn to take care of themselves and come to rely on the charity. Aid if the charity helps them get their lives on track.
Scorn causes hatred. All that needs to be said.
It is better if everyone is equal in social status.
Okay. By Commie decree, we're all just like Steven Hawking.

Where's your wheel chair, dude?
 
Poor guy. Great mind.

America was created under the basis of equality, yet equality is nonexistant.

I do believe i have more control over my body than just my left foot.
 
PolitikalOverthrow said:
America was created under the basis of equality,
Equal opportunity.
...yet equality is nonexistant.
Not equal outcome.
I do believe i have more control over my body than just my left foot.
Then you, too, have what it takes to convert opportunity into desired outcome.

Or not.

Your problem, not ours. ;)
 
PolitikalOverthrow said:
The basis of Communism is that all people are created equally
Well there’s misnomer number one. Some people are driven and hard working while others are lazy. Some people are clever while others are not. Some people are inventive and others not.

Ever live in a share house? You’ll quickly realize that even this small little tiny microcosm of communism can be a pain in the arse. Communism is against the very nature of people and will never work outside of a small group that are dedicated to their commune. Certainly never ever for the public at large.

PolitikalOverthrow said:
The economy works like this: A person decides what job they want, and they go on a list of people who want that job also. The most qualified ones will get the job, and the others will be assigned to another job that the community needs.
And so the nepotism begins. Most jobs can be done by pretty much anyone. So who get the top slots? There will be more qualified people than jobs to go around. That's for certain. Some people will have to do shit jobs while equally qualified people will have plush jobs.

Who chooses - YOU?



I have a close friend of mine that is from Communist China. He said something to the effect of:
the day I can see my fellow man drive by me in his nice new cool car with a hot babe in his lap and I am on my bike with my ugly wife and I know that he has that hot chick because of his cool car and good job, and I can think to myself “Good on him” is the day Communism will work.

It isn’t happening anytime soon my friend!!!


PolitikalOverthrow said:
The money will then be distributed back evenly amongst the population. This will ensure that everyone gets what they need. Doctors will make as much as maids, lawyers will make as much as their paralegals. You may be thinking right about now that people would have no incentive to work because they know they will make as much money as everyone else. But there is a solution to that. 20% of the money that is collected by the government will be kept and then distributed in appropriate amounts to people who went beyond what they were supposed to do. People who worked hard and tried their best at their job.
Oh, get off it. You have no idea what motivates people. It surely is not an pittance of 20% more. What, The lazy f*cker (of which includes most people) that does his job only as much as needed to say "done" gets 80% equal to me?

Screw that? I'd be so pissed if he got lucky in the house lottery and then got to live on the beach while I didn't!!

You have nothing in your system to give incentive to create anything new. 20% is never going to do it.



I know PolitikalOverthrow, how about this. Everyone hates cleaning. And cleaning the public toilets must be the worse. Why don’t you quit whatever job you are doing now and go into cleaning public toilets. Do that for a few years. Then come back and tell us how much you like communism. Because surely someone will have to clean the public toilets and so why not as a motivation to the rest of us, and as a gester of your sincerity - it be you?

See you in a few years,
Michael
 
PolitikalOverthrow said:
Though it has failed in the past, Communism is the correct form of government. When it is not corrupted by foul, unworthy induviduals, Communism will be made to work! With a fair and kind leader this government would work very well!
Yeah, same thing could work with Fascism (different from nazism), Republicanism (not straightforward democracy), and monarchy.
You are forgetting that humans are, well, human, and nothing will ever change that. We just have to suck it up and take it like a man, dammit.
 
PolitikalOverthrow said:
The government would make up for the shortcomings of the people.
Of which I'm sure the government will find more and more of as it fails to delvery any form of prosperity to the people. Those people that realize the government isn't working and say so will probably be tossed into such a category as having "shortcomings". They will be the scapegoat. So, what shall be done? Oh maybe "re-educate them"? Try and fix the perceived short comings?

Big Brother begins.
:bugeye:


Anyway, what about the toilet cleaning? Are you going to give it a go of a couple years? Well, of course not. Think about why you do not want to clean those tolets and you will understand why communism will never work (outside of a small group living in a very small commune)

Michael
 
PolitikalOverthrow said:
The government would make up for the shortcomings of the people.
The government is controlled by people. :rolleyes:

Unless you want a government controlled by robots? :D :D
 
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