Act of God?
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no, an accident indirectly caused by man.
the god of the bible/quran is evil, but as real as frodo baggins/darth vader.
the god of the bible/quran is evil, but as real as frodo baggins/darth vader.
It was a natural occuring weather occurance.
who by.c7ityi_ said:
Act of god: A manifestation especially of a violent or destructive natural force, such as a lightning strike or earthquake, that is beyond human power to cause, prevent, or control.
You sound like an insurance salesman c7ityi_.
So an 'act of god' has nothing to do with god then?
just shit that happens?
So why call it an act of god?
Dee Cee
You sound like an insurance salesman c7ityi_.
So an 'act of god' has nothing to do with god then?
just shit that happens?
So why call it an act of god?
Dee Cee
It depends on your definition of god.
Big bloke in the sky, long white beard, talent for creating stuff.
The power which controls everything used to be called god.
So whats it called now and why the name change?
Some sort of rebranding exercise to drum up custom perhaps?
So to rephrase...
Was Katrina an act of The power formally known as god?
Posting here is starting to feel like swimming through treacle.
Dee Cee
Big bloke in the sky, long white beard, talent for creating stuff.
The power which controls everything used to be called god.
So whats it called now and why the name change?
Some sort of rebranding exercise to drum up custom perhaps?
So to rephrase...
Was Katrina an act of The power formally known as god?
Posting here is starting to feel like swimming through treacle.
Dee Cee
God only exists in the minds of deluded fools, so maybe.
DeeCee said:
No wonder YOU think "god" sounds foolish
God is not a personal entity.God is known as another, less mis/understood, word: self. But people have created masks and lost themselves, and with that, the meaning of what is called "god" in religions.
It is said: "you are the temples of God". Our bodies are vehicles, instruments for the self. The self has no form, but it is within all forms.
Yes.
Actually there is no evidential basis for such a claim, indeed it would be the opposite. From the earliest known writings - even up until the bible etc - gods have been considered as external entities, actual physical beings - and really early on the sun, moon and stars.
Notions of 'god' alluding to your "inner self" is a more modern day idea, and thus it would be more pertinent to state that the beliefs you profess are the 'masks' and lost meaning of what is called 'god' in religions.
Just thought I would clear that up.
SnakeLord said:
You have to read between the lines. In buddhism there is no god, but there is the self. Most people couldn't understand such a thing, so people like Moses talked about a god. And of course, the self is "external" from people, since they are not themselves, they (bodies, persons) are in contradiction with the will of their real self, they are separated from themselves.
The initiates honored the power which controls and maintains nature, they didn't worship the physical nature. They didn't believe in a personal god either... Of course, the primitive humans couldn't understand what they were talking about so they started to worship physical entities, like the sun moon and stars.
Like there is a physical "sun", there is also a metaphysical sun, light, within us. But only one, not several. The sun was just a symbol of the sun-gods. It is not "god", it is the fountain of that energy, it is a representation of the expression of "god".
It is said that the self is within everything. At first, people were very much united with their body, so they also saw the "god" (the goal) as a body (like the sun). People are still united with their body, but mostly with their person (shadow, ghost, reflection of the body), so now they believe in a personal invisible entity called God. This is evolution. Later, people will begin to understand the self, so they will see god in everything, they will recognize themselves in everything...
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Moses wouldn't have been able to understand buddhism, since buddhism wouldn't have even existed back then, (dates back to about 563 BCE). If this is your entire case that people are mistaken as to 'god' really meaning 'self', then you've already lost.
No offence but this is simple gibberish. It's starting to sound like the same inane babbling Yorda comes out with.
The evidence would show that ancient people believed in external beings, (not their 'outer selves'), that controlled the weather, events and indeed existence itself. These beings had names such as tiamat, yhwh, qetzecotl, apollo and so on - none of which meant, or had any relevance to, 'self'.
So now you agree with me? I stated that "even up until the bible etc - gods have been considered as external entities, actual physical beings - and really early on the sun, moon and stars". Thus, to say it once again - the meaning of god related to an actual physical being, not "self", which in your own words they didn't even understand. We can then conclude that it is you who has misunderstood, created a mask and lost yourself to the meaning of 'god'.
By who and in relation to what? Is a rock considered to have a 'self' that is external to it because of contradiction with the will of it's real self? (whatever the hell that means)
From where does this come?
What does this even mean? Shadows and ghosts?? Wtf?
No, it's a personally held fantasy of yours. From an evolutionary standpoint:
1) Man has many gods, (external beings)
2) Man realises one god will suffice (external being)
3) Man realises there's no need for gods and he might aswell just call himself god.
It does not work in the opposite direction.
Yeah, "later".. Which if you go back and read my post is what I was getting at. Early people did not consider 'self' or shadows, ghosts and reflections, but actual physical external entities. As a result, as my last post pointed out, it is you who has misunderstood the meaning of 'god'. It doesn't in any way refer to 'self'. If you want a word to use for 'self', why not use... 'self' - like the following example shows:
Later, people will begin to understand the self, so they will see "self" in everything.
Don't use the word 'god', because you're talking about something in no way connected to 'self'.
There.. much better.
Act of God, act of clouds, act of greenhouse gas, act of temperature and humidity, what's the difference? Natural things don't act like a human, namely with an agenda or plan, it's simple cause and effect.